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High altitude Helicycle
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Stu Fields
2009-08-02 18:30:21 UTC
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A report in of a Helicycle climbing at 600fpm at a density altitude of
8,000. Of course the passenger capacity is limited to only 6 politicians
with the lies removed.
Steve R.
2009-08-03 03:52:16 UTC
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Post by Stu Fields
A report in of a Helicycle climbing at 600fpm at a density altitude of
8,000. Of course the passenger capacity is limited to only 6 politicians
with the lies removed.
Stu,

I take it from your comment that you don't entirely believe this? ;-)

I have "no" idea what kind of performance the Helicycle has one way or the
other. I have heard that turbines in general do better at altitude, at
least on fixed wing aircraft. Would that apply to rotorcraft too? Do you
think the 2-stroke engines that Mr. Schramm originally tried to put in the
Helicycle would be flying at all at that kind of density altitude?

Just wondering! :-)
Steve R.
Stu Fields
2009-08-03 14:27:20 UTC
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Post by Stu Fields
A report in of a Helicycle climbing at 600fpm at a density altitude of
8,000. Of course the passenger capacity is limited to only 6 politicians
with the lies removed.
Stu,
I take it from your comment that you don't entirely believe this? ;-)
I have "no" idea what kind of performance the Helicycle has one way or the
other. I have heard that turbines in general do better at altitude, at
least on fixed wing aircraft. Would that apply to rotorcraft too? Do you
think the 2-stroke engines that Mr. Schramm originally tried to put in the
Helicycle would be flying at all at that kind of density altitude?
Just wondering! :-)
Steve R.
Steve: I believe the report. The birds have an abundance of power. People
flying in the low lands of Illinois, Louisiana etc. have modified their
engines, in effect halving the power to get better fuel consumption and
still don't seem to have much trouble flying. There have been other reports
of flying the Helicycle above 11,000. My comment about the passengers was
just a slam at politicians.
I don't know what the performance of the 2 stroke would be. If I had to
guess, I would expect the 2 stroke to be encapable at that high of a density
altitude. Some form of Mixture control would be necessary. I think that
there is one Helicycle flying with the 2 stroke, but I've never heard any
performance reporting.

Stu
Stu Fields
2009-08-03 16:03:09 UTC
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Post by Steve R.
Post by Stu Fields
A report in of a Helicycle climbing at 600fpm at a density altitude of
8,000. Of course the passenger capacity is limited to only 6 politicians
with the lies removed.
Stu,
I take it from your comment that you don't entirely believe this? ;-)
I have "no" idea what kind of performance the Helicycle has one way or
the other. I have heard that turbines in general do better at altitude,
at least on fixed wing aircraft. Would that apply to rotorcraft too? Do
you think the 2-stroke engines that Mr. Schramm originally tried to put
in the Helicycle would be flying at all at that kind of density altitude?
Just wondering! :-)
Steve R.
Steve: I believe the report. The birds have an abundance of power.
People flying in the low lands of Illinois, Louisiana etc. have modified
their engines, in effect halving the power to get better fuel consumption
and still don't seem to have much trouble flying. There have been other
reports of flying the Helicycle above 11,000. My comment about the
passengers was just a slam at politicians.
I don't know what the performance of the 2 stroke would be. If I had to
guess, I would expect the 2 stroke to be encapable at that high of a
density altitude. Some form of Mixture control would be necessary. I
think that there is one Helicycle flying with the 2 stroke, but I've never
heard any performance reporting.
Stu
Got another report of HOGE in excess of 8500' These things are sounding
better and better.

Stu
Steve R.
2009-08-04 02:29:38 UTC
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A report in of a Helicycle climbing at 600fpm at a density altitude of
8,000. Of course the passenger capacity is limited to only 6
politicians with the lies removed.
Stu,
I take it from your comment that you don't entirely believe this? ;-)
I have "no" idea what kind of performance the Helicycle has one way or
the other. I have heard that turbines in general do better at altitude,
at least on fixed wing aircraft. Would that apply to rotorcraft too?
Do you think the 2-stroke engines that Mr. Schramm originally tried to
put in the Helicycle would be flying at all at that kind of density
altitude?
Just wondering! :-)
Steve R.
Steve: I believe the report. The birds have an abundance of power.
People flying in the low lands of Illinois, Louisiana etc. have modified
their engines, in effect halving the power to get better fuel consumption
and still don't seem to have much trouble flying. There have been other
reports of flying the Helicycle above 11,000. My comment about the
passengers was just a slam at politicians.
I don't know what the performance of the 2 stroke would be. If I had to
guess, I would expect the 2 stroke to be encapable at that high of a
density altitude. Some form of Mixture control would be necessary. I
think that there is one Helicycle flying with the 2 stroke, but I've
never heard any performance reporting.
Stu
Got another report of HOGE in excess of 8500' These things are sounding
better and better.
Stu
Cool, Thanks!

Steve R.
unknown
2009-08-07 19:42:08 UTC
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Post by Stu Fields
Got another report of HOGE in excess of 8500' These things are sounding
better and better.
Probably with a couple gallons of fuel and a 150lb pilot on board...

I wish someone would make an experimental/hombuilt capable of housing
my 74" and 225 lbs. :)
Stu Fields
2009-08-08 02:31:38 UTC
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"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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Post by Stu Fields
Got another report of HOGE in excess of 8500' These things are sounding
better and better.
Probably with a couple gallons of fuel and a 150lb pilot on board...
I wish someone would make an experimental/hombuilt capable of housing
my 74" and 225 lbs. :)
Kevin: You are a candidate for my guaranteed power-to-weight enhancement
program. It is 100% money back guarantee to work. It involves a hockey
goalies face mask and when worn at meal time will cut your 225 down a bit.
I know the Helicycle says that for pilots less than 180# it is possible to
add a 5 gal. aux tank to increase the range. Well my 194# didn't look to
good anyway (73") so after looking at the 72" 170# guys on WEC I decided
that I can go there. My 194# is now @ 182# and going down. I didn't have
to resort to the goalies mask yet.

Stu
unknown
2009-08-18 17:08:52 UTC
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Post by Stu Fields
Kevin: You are a candidate for my guaranteed power-to-weight enhancement
program. It is 100% money back guarantee to work.
Since it's evidently free, I don't see how you'd be risking anything
form YOUR side. :)
Post by Stu Fields
It involves a hockey
goalies face mask and when worn at meal time will cut your 225 down a bit.
I imagine that wouldn't go over too well when I take the wife out to
dinner.
Post by Stu Fields
I know the Helicycle says that for pilots less than 180# it is possible to
add a 5 gal. aux tank to increase the range. Well my 194# didn't look to
good anyway (73") so after looking at the 72" 170# guys on WEC I decided
to resort to the goalies mask yet.
Man, I was 170 lbs at my HS graduation, 175lbs when I got married 6
years later... I can't blame anyone but the cook in the house - me!
:)
Stu Fields
2009-08-18 19:41:12 UTC
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"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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Post by Stu Fields
Kevin: You are a candidate for my guaranteed power-to-weight enhancement
program. It is 100% money back guarantee to work.
Since it's evidently free, I don't see how you'd be risking anything
form YOUR side. :)
Post by Stu Fields
It involves a hockey
goalies face mask and when worn at meal time will cut your 225 down a bit.
I imagine that wouldn't go over too well when I take the wife out to
dinner.
Post by Stu Fields
I know the Helicycle says that for pilots less than 180# it is possible to
add a 5 gal. aux tank to increase the range. Well my 194# didn't look to
good anyway (73") so after looking at the 72" 170# guys on WEC I decided
to resort to the goalies mask yet.
Man, I was 170 lbs at my HS graduation, 175lbs when I got married 6
years later... I can't blame anyone but the cook in the house - me!
:)
Update: 180 and headed for 170#. BTW don't worry about the goalies mask in
a restaurant. If a very large number of people ever decide to avoid
diabetes and high blood pressure., you will look strange without a mask.
Obesity seems to be a very popular sport right now.
For some reason the helicopters attract a lot of people who would primarily
only qualify for a two seat Huey. Or a 1/2 seat R-22?

Stu

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